In Madrid you spend much time admiring the past through the doors of cafes and bars, while consuming volumes of ale and plates of weird tapas almost to rival the delights of Bosch's weird paintings.
In two countries where the art is the city, it is easy to get carried away with walking, wining and dining, in the relaxed, safe outdoors and the history still vibrant and alive today.
All the major tourist attractions of Florence are within a few kilometres of the main train station, but Neville's there for the 15th-century rock star.